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Karthikeyan
Aug 21, 2003 06:19:54 GMT   

Hi,

I want to know that in WIN98 SE, is there any way to LOCK the System and also compulsory entry of USERNAME & PASSWORD while WIN 98 startsup (i.e. now if u enter PASSWORD or CANCEL the LOGIN screen u can login but without NETWORK support)......similar to Win NT 4.0 Workstation......

Thanks in advance.........

karthik
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Jerome Henry Expert in this area This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Aug 21, 2003 06:33:08 GMT    Unassigned

Mmmm... yes, but if you want to avoid the 'escape' allowing you to enter without network, you need to go to the registry :

While you are logged in open your registry and expand the [HKEY_USERS] key, there should be several sub-folders including ".DEFAULT", "Software" and a folder corresponding to the new username you created above.

Open the key listed below (if the 'Run' key does not already exist then create it), and create a new string value named "NoLogon", and set the value to equal "RUNDLL32 shell32,SHExitWindowsEx 0".

Log-off and now when you login using the new username you should gain access to the desktop, but when you press Cancel or enter the wrong password the desktop should partially load, and then the computer should return to the login screen.

If you have trouble with this, you can still start on F8 / safe mode basis, and suppress the key...

hope it helps...

J
Jerome Henry Expert in this area This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Aug 22, 2003 06:43:50 GMT    Unassigned

Hi,

test should be a subfolder in HKEY_USERS, not in default, which is the default user setting.

As for preventing any other log, I had a key to change somewhere, time for me to find it back and I'll revert to you...

J
Ron Kinner This member has accumulated 7500 or more points
Aug 22, 2003 19:01:45 GMT    Unassigned

Take a look at System Security 2002. It's freeware and looks like it will do what you want and a lot more.

http://www.aesoftware.com/security2002_info.htm

Ron
Jerome Henry Expert in this area This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Aug 23, 2003 12:19:47 GMT    Unassigned

OK,

I found it back. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Network\Logon
There, create a new key, dword type, called MustBeValidated. Set its value to 1.

Now, users MUST validate password on logo, no escape or cancel allowed. Setting it to 0 allows it back.

As Ron says, win 98 isn't anyway set up by nature to be secure, as being home OS.

Hope it helps, let me know if someting doesn't work...

J
Ron Kinner This member has accumulated 7500 or more points
Aug 27, 2003 20:28:18 GMT    Unassigned

The Policy Editor might help:

http://www.zisman.ca/poledit/

http://jeh.ne.client2.attbi.com/TechSupport/Articles/User%20Profiles%20with%20Windows%2095%27s%20Policy%20Editor.htm


Ron
Jerome Henry Expert in this area This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Aug 28, 2003 13:14:12 GMT    Unassigned

Apart from Ron's tip, which may not work for your case, I do not think it's possible to do this in a w98 box...

Machine still needs to know if you authentitcate locally or remotely...

J
rs
Sep 7, 2003 05:11:41 GMT    Unassigned

20030906 - the best way that i know to lock WIN98SE is to use the BIOS security password feature.

You must restart to lock, but the only way to get past the BIOS login screen to load Windows is enter the password or crack the box and move the jumper to a maintenance setting that will automatically take you into setup when you fire-it-up.

My older Phoenix BIOS, orig loaded w/ WIN98 4.10.98, doesn't have a security password feature, but it seems that most newer machines do.
Karthikeyan
Aug 21, 2003 07:02:50 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Hi Jerome Henry,

--While you are logged in open your registry and expand the [HKEY_USERS] key, there should be several sub-folders including ".DEFAULT", "Software" and a folder corresponding to the new username you created above.

Hey, i've a user (name="test"), but i don't find any corresponding folder in the registry at "HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\SOFTWARE"......can u pls check and tell me......one more think....i want to avoid new USER creation also......i.e. instead of pressing ESC key, they can create to NEW USER & get access to the SYSTEM.....basically i want WIN98 SYSTEM to be under my control....i.e. only owner is authorized to use it.........

bye
karthik
Karthikeyan
Aug 22, 2003 10:41:13 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Hi Jerome Henry,

I don't find any "test" subfolder in HKEY_USERS, and also is there any way to fully disable ESC & CANCEL keys in the LOGON screen....as stated in my prev. post.....it should be under control of the OWNER itself...

Take u'r own time.....I'll b waiting with patience......

bye,
Karthik
Karthikeyan
Aug 27, 2003 06:15:31 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Hi Jerome Henry,

As per your post, i added a new value called "MustBeValidated", value is set to 1. of "dword" type at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Network\Logon.

When I restarted the Machine, i got 1 more field extra called "DOMAIN" in the LOGON screen/window other than "USERNAME" & "PASSWORD".....and whatever i enter in the DOMAIN field is not accepting & giving me error that corresponding USERNAME & PASSWORD is not a valid in particular DOMAIN.....

So I reverted the above new REGISTRY value to "0" by restarting in the SAFE MODE......

Now, Can u pls tell me how to avoid DOMAIN field in the LOGON screen....

Regards,
Karthik
 
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