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Christian Jackson
Aug 16, 2004 09:51:13 GMT   

I use wireless a lot, last week it was fine, I go to use it over the weekend and the green icon says wireless is already on, but the LEDs are not flashing, nor is it green.

I performed no upgrades etc, and have no idea why it has failed.

Anyhow, upgraded rom to the new 1.10.10, also tried the new drivers and firmware for wireless, but although the driver installed it doesnt report an update in asset viewer, firmware reports a blank space, and the MAC address is either a blank space or 00-00-00-00 etc

HP figured it was firmware, but feel they need to see it, also saying they have not heard of the problem, even though this forum reports this issue a million times.

HP are sending for my device probably tomorrow - i'll be 5 days with out my device! :-(

Has anybody actually solved this issue them selves?... or is it (as it seems) a hardware issue? (Is it as popular issue as it seems - as people dont always say they resolved the issue)
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Laura This member has accumulated 20000 or more points
Aug 16, 2004 09:57:09 GMT    Unassigned

try removing the battery for at least 10 seconds - this will reset the wireless...
Christian Jackson
Aug 16, 2004 10:05:03 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Yep done all that...
Laura This member has accumulated 20000 or more points
Aug 16, 2004 10:07:02 GMT    Unassigned

Sorry ! - that's the only trick I have !
Antony C. Kuo Expert in this area
Aug 16, 2004 21:10:59 GMT    Unassigned

Do a Hard Reset, by the following:-

1) Softreset your iPAQ.
2) Take your Battery out, and press the softrest five times (Slowly).
3) Put the Battery in, and press the Softreet one time (Slowly).
4) Try it, if this still comeout with the problem, do the HARD RESET, this should correct everything.
5) If Hard Reset still does not work, then, it is the Hardware problem!
6) Call HP and ship it to them ASAP.



Hope this helps!
francisco blas
Aug 16, 2004 22:06:39 GMT    Unassigned

Tske out the battery and press the soft reset button five times, then reinstall the battery. I had the very same problem.
Jim Clarke
Aug 17, 2004 04:32:21 GMT    Unassigned

Yes, Christian, I had exact same problem. I eventually sent mine to HP and they put in a new M/B, WLAN and ANT. When I got it back, it still was having serious problems but spoke to someone in HP in Ireland and they suggested I re-install the following in this order:-
1. ROM upgrade 1.10
2. Firmware upgrade (SP25826.exe)
3. Update driver for WLAN WPA etc. 4.3.5.414 (SP27595.exe) see my note below on this.
4. WLAN firmware 1.103.5.164 (SP27605.exe).
Things started working then although I am still having difficulty seeing a WPA A/P. Can see a regular and WEP fine now.

Note on installing 4.3.5.414. When I first started updating ROM and drivers (before shipping to HP), I discovered in order to install Firmware 1.103.5.164, it was necessary to first install lower version of WLAN driver 3.2.4.133 (SP27632.exe). Otherwise, if I installed 4.3.5.414 first, I kept getting error message when installing firmware that Softpaq WLAN driver 3.2.4.133 or higher version was necessary to install 1.103.5.164. Why it didn't recognise 4.3.5.414 as higher than 3.2.4.133 is a mystery to me. So it was suggested to me by someone on active chat to remove the higher version of 4.3.5.414 and re-install 3.2.4.133, then install the firmware 1.103.5.164, then remove 3.2.4.133 and install 4.3.5.414 and then re-install firmware 1.103.5.164.

PS. Don't forget that when installing some of these, you must finish with a soft reset - follow the instructions carefully!!
Good luck and let us know how you get on. Jim
Christian Jackson
Aug 17, 2004 04:59:27 GMT    N/A: Question Author

I followed your instructions, but it seems I cant even install the firmware.
Jim Clarke
Aug 17, 2004 05:19:40 GMT    Unassigned

I was just thinking again about the order I did these in before getting to work.
It was more like the following:-
1. ROM 1.10 (SP27674.exe) (you could probably skip this one if already upgraded successfully)
2. install lower version WLAN driver ie. 3.2.4.133 (SP27632.exe).
3. install WLAN Firmware 1.103.5.164 (SP27605.exe),
4. Firmware upgrade Version 1.00.18 (SP25826.exe)
5. Remove WLAN driver 3.2.4.133 and install 4.3.5.414 (SP27595.exe) (remove should be done automatically when installing later version of 4.3.5.414 but remember to finish the install after the removal!) and
6. then re-install WLAN firmware 1.103.5.164

Things started working after this series of installs.

Also, do you have ActiveSync 3.7? and in guest partnership while doing these installs?

PS. Again, Don't forget that when installing some of these (i think all except the firmware upgrade 1.00.18), you must finish with a soft reset - follow the instructions carefully!!
Christian Jackson
Aug 17, 2004 05:41:56 GMT    N/A: Question Author

I tried step 2.
2. install lower version WLAN driver ie. 3.2.4.133 (SP27632.exe).

the driver still reports 3.2.2.123
though the mac has gone
from: <blank space>
to: 00-00-00-00-00-00
Ronald Aung Expert in this area ???en_US.forums.text.=beamingAlt???
Aug 17, 2004 05:43:51 GMT    Unassigned

Yes, Jim is quite right on the order of installation. ROM can be installed again to refresh all the standard windows drivers, followed by either the firmware driver (in this case, the WLAN) and the firmware update and followed by any other misc. drivers.
Christian Jackson
Aug 17, 2004 07:13:57 GMT    N/A: Question Author

I think this can only be hardware...

I borrowed another 5550, did the following:
1.rom update 1.10 (SP27674)
2.driver 4.3.5.414 (sp27595)
3.frmware 1.103.5.164 (sp27605)

Worked fine - took 20mins!

So, back to basics on the faulty 5550:
1.rom update - success
2.driver - success
3. -

the ipaq displays the following screen:

---------------
/ /
/ Start update /
/ /
---------------

Current WLAN Firmware Version
0.0.0.0

Firmware update Version:
1.103.5.164

----------------

Progress
etc...


* Now when I did this on the working ipaq the firmware did not say 0.0.0.0 it actually had a number.
* If i press start update anyway, i get the following error:

Error (ok)
Please, reset this device.
And re-run this application called 'WLAN ROM Update' from the Start Menu


Does this sound like hardware?
Jim Clarke
Aug 17, 2004 07:25:28 GMT    Unassigned

Christian,
I got exactly same thing ie.about running WLAN ROM Update from start menu before sending away IPAQ. as I said, they replaced M/B, WLAN and ANT and problem went away. I would vote it is a H/W problem. But that's just my 2 cents ;-))
Christian Jackson
Sep 6, 2004 11:09:42 GMT    N/A: Question Author

ok I got the ipaq back - and as you they replaced the motherboard and wireless, and all was finem i even updated drivers and firmware.

The ipaq has been working fine, went to use it today and its gone again!

Does PocketWinc and Ministumbler burn it out - i dont use these utils a lot, but they do come in handy in my line of work...

Could these softwares be bad?
Jason R
Sep 8, 2004 01:25:25 GMT    Unassigned

My 5450 has had this problem in the past. THen it started working and just recently it stopped working again. The only strange thing I've done to it recently is do my first hard reset in a long time.
Christian Jackson
Sep 13, 2004 10:01:39 GMT    N/A: Question Author

i did a hard reset - and it all seems fine again. But I still think this is strange - and im scared that it will pack up again.

Do you think its safe to use ministumbler and winc?
 
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